Kenya - Tanzania border closed over row on vehicle levy



Moyo,

I found your email to be condescending, demeaning and offensive to say the least. I is this kind of mindsets that will impede EAC from achieving its goal. Similar to Tanzania, Kenya is among the poorest nation in the world with a GDP of $ 71.5 billions, based on CIA facts book, which is only $ 6 billions ahead of Tanzania. Based on those figures I don't understand where you got your bragging rights from. Thousands of Kenyans are dying every year because of famine and you have the audacity to say that y'all thrive in hard condition, this is plainly pathetic. Listen, whether you like it or not Tanzania will be a force to be reckoned with in the future, our country is so blessed and we have a strong foundation (no ukabila). We only have to do some reshuffle and we will be okay...
 
And what is our government doing about it? Kenyan were levied $200 and their government acted quiclky to resolve the issue, but how our government?

Have u ever been to the East African court's archives? Or u just yap! Take ur time to visit the court proceedings to see how many cases are against Kenya's protectionism to know what we mean here! Otherwise u r wasting ur time to contribute blindly without knowing the facts on the ground...!
 

Nah... $200 was an effective approach to a state that applies gorilla tactics since it did not take even an hour before everyone was aware of the row plus ur minister visit to solve the situation! Moreover it cautioned ur Govt on what r the consequences of doing things that r anti common market!
 

Wewe usiwe unajibu just kuonyesha kwamba unajua kujibu try to get the rationale cum gist of my argument! I gave an example of the massive tea estates in Kenya to crush someone's argument that Kenya is all drought! If u know what it takes to grow tea then u can not agree the reality that they failed to grow maize but agreeing the issue was what was priority to them i.e. growing cash crops over food to eat! So for u to compare growing tea with mining u show ur misunderstanding of issues (from soil properties of the two industries i.e. tea and gold mining)! since where they r gold mines the climate is not that favorable for agriculture ( i am sure u hav no idea of this)! And last but not least gold mining activities have no significant effect as land use aspects of a place r concerned since they don't result into huge displacement on traditional landuses compared to tea estates! Ujaribu kulewa ninachoongea au utakuwa unajichoresha kwa kutojua the base of arguments!
 
serikali yetu ina endekeza dhiki, hata hayo mapato hayajulikani yanapokwenda,
serikali ovyoo kabisa,
WAKENYA MSILALAMIKE SANA...HATA BIA ZIMEPANDA HUKU

ok.. SWALI
KWANINI SERIKALI IMEFULIA WAKATI ILIPANGA BAJETI YA MATUMIZI YAKE???why matumizi yanakuwa makubwa kuliko mapato??
kimsingi, na blame serikali yetu
 
Kwa hiyo mnahalalisha kuwa wanalalamikia hiyo 200Usd fee (karasha) ni watanzania?, Karasha hawezi kuwa mtz, wakenya mnataka kufaidi resources za tz for free?!, mnatia kinyaa.
 
Glad wameondoa hiyo levy,kulikuwa hakuna haja ya kuleta patriotism kwa kitu kama hii maana levy kama hizi ndio mwanzo wa rushwa na ingeumiza wote hata watanzania wenyewe maana levy ilikuwa ni kwa magari yote crossing the border,hizi ant EAC na chuki kwa wakenya sijui zimetoka wapi kwa watanzania?naona hasira zenu za umaskini na hali ngumu ya maisha mnazielekeza pasipotakiwa,angalieni na fikirieni vizuri kwa nini mko maskini sana...hiyo EAC is for your own interest na itawasaidia wengi tuu kutoka kwenye umaskini mlio nao sasa.
 

Cannot get a rationale in your argument because there is no one. Zaidi unalalama tuu na kuwa too subjective. Sorry, I can't buy your personal hatred against the Kenyans.
 
The problem with Tanzania and guys like Ulole who claim to have rationale in their arguments that seems putative to me, is like a case of the proverbial blind men trying to grasp a huge elephant, like a lot of blind-men feeling an elephant, some said the elephant was like a wall, while some grasping the tail said that the elephant was like a rope, etc. Nina amini kuwa the levels of education among people is different. Lakini, Tanzania munafaa muache kuchukua watu kutoka vijijini kuendesha ofisi senstive kama hiyo. Or else, it seems that nepotism is really an issue down there. Really, there is no rationale or anything like logic in guys who are supporting such a move in this thread arguments other than being militant without ideas. Then it really exposes weak arguments in those you call intelligent critics" Here Mr .Rufiji.

 
Lakini sisi Watanzania ni watu wa ajabu sana. Eti Mtanzania anayesihi Namanga na Longido kama anataka kwenda Kenya, itambidi kwanza aenda Arusha, zaidi ya kilomita 100, ili kupata temporary travel documents. Hii ni tofauti na Wakenya ambao wanaweza kupata travel documents hapo hapo Namanga.

Kusema kweli hii inawawia vigumu Watanzania wanaotaka kufanya biashara Kenya. Kwa nini waende mpaka Arusha mjini kupata travel documents? Even worse, sio kwamba ukienda Arusha kuomba travel documents, utazipata siku hiyo hiyo. The process is unnecessary too long na inaongeza gharama kwa wafanyabiasha. By the time unapata hiyo travel document unawezakuta na biashara imeshadoda.

Kwa staili hii kweli tutatajaria Watanzania wataweza ku-compete effectively na Wakenya kibiashara? I am glad Sitta has noticed this and ordered temporary travel documents to be issued at Namanga.

Pia inadaiwa wafanyabiashara wa Kitanzania kwenye mpaka wa Holili/Taveta wanalalamika kuzuiliwa kuuza mahindi Kenya simply because one Tanzania big company has been given the monopoly to transport maize to Kenya at the expense of small-scale traders. Utakuta hii ni kampuni ya mkubwa mmoja au mwenye kampuni ana connection na mkubwa. How ridiculous is this?

DailyNews Online Edition - Sitta orders passports to be issued at Namanga border
 
Kwa hiyo mnahalalisha kuwa wanalalamikia hiyo 200Usd fee (karasha) ni watanzania?, Karasha hawezi kuwa mtz, wakenya mnataka kufaidi resources za tz for free?!, mnatia kinyaa.

Kuna Kitu nimejifundisha katika gazetti moja kuu hapo TZ, kwamba ili watu wa mipakani watake kutoka kuingia kenya, ni lazima waende Arusha kupata stakabadhi muhimu. Ilichukua gazetti la humu nchini kenya kufichua upumbavu huo ndio waziri akajitokeza. Resources zenyewe, hatuna njaa nazo tuko na Rwanda na Uganda na Burundi who are making great gains. kingine nimejifunza ni kwamba sarafu ya hapo na ya somalia zikokaribu kutoshana.

Hatuna njaa na vitu vyenu ambavyo hamna hata umiliki navyo. tunajaribu kuwashitua kwamba tanzania is a sleeping giant, lakini kama kulivyo DRC, kuna mamluki wamesimama na rasimali hizo. poleni.........
 

Since when can a local authority in Tanzania teach Kenya issues of governance? gorilla tactics zilitumika wakati wa vita vya kagera, not wakati wa kujenga trading bloc. About people quickly realizing there was a row, shows how the Kenyan media is effective in bringing news. I wish the same could be said about your media, pengine shida za hapo kwenu zingekuwa zimekwisha.
 

inaeza kuwa ni mapato yanatumika for useless projects kama ujenzi wa shopping mall cum ofisi za serikali in the uptown upperhill nairobi.
 
Cannot get a rationale in your argument because there is no one. Zaidi unalalama tuu na kuwa too subjective. Sorry, I can't buy your personal hatred against the Kenyans.

if u can't get the rationale of my argument then don't waste ur time to respond on them since ur knowledge might be limited! BTW i hate nobody...otherwise substantiate my hate towards Kenya!
 

I love this subiri December na utajua nephotism ipo wapi!
 
if u can't get the rationale of my argument then don't waste ur time to respond on them since ur knowledge might be limited! BTW i hate nobody...otherwise substantiate my hate towards Kenya!


it is only a fool in Kenya will make noises on their government retaliating on Tanzania's introduction of US$ 200 per truck since once that border is closed,

Kutokana na hatred yako kwa Wakenya it is extremely difficult to see how you can be impartial and non-judgement in your arguments. You sound xenophobic to me with your unreasonable fear of the Kenyans. You're showing your fear of losing your identity to the Kenyans, suspicion of their activities, aggression, and desire to eliminate their presence to secure a presumed purity. This can be seen from your uncritical exaltation of them. Matokea yake, unaishia kuwa unreal, stereotyped and prejudicial.
 
Wee EMT hivi unamhafamu vizuri Geza Ulole mpaka uanze kum-judge namna unavyo fanya?
Acha kutafuta sifa toka kwa wakenya hazitakusaidia mdogo wangu...Amka:A S-coffee:
 
Wee EMT hivi unamhafamu vizuri Geza Ulole mpaka uanze kum-judge namna unavyo fanya?
Acha kutafuta sifa toka kwa wakenya hazitakusaidia mdogo wangu...Amka:A S-coffee:

Natafute sifa kwa Wakenya kwani zitanisaidia nini? Mtu huwa anafahamika kutokana na posts zake anazoweka humu. Watu wameshikishwa humu kutokana na posts waliziweka huko nyuma. I don't need to know him personally. His posts here about Kenya speak volumes. Watu kama nyie ndio mtakiwa kuamka kutoka usingizini. Badala ya kulalama muda muda at least address matatizo yetu bila ya kuwalaumu watu wengine ambao hata hawahusiki.

Kwa mfani nimeuliza kwa nini Mtanzania anayesihi Namanga na Longido akitaka kwenda Kenya, inambidi kwanza aende Arusha, zaidi ya kilomita 100, kupata temporary travel documents wakati Wakenya wanaweza kupata travel documents hapo hapo Namanga? Kati ya hoja kama hizi na kuwaita Wakenya "Manyang'au" ipi unaona itakusaidia wewe kama Mtanzania? Yaani kumwita Mkenya "Nyang'au" itasaidia vipi kusuluhisha matatizo ya Watanzania kwa ujumla? Kwako kumwita Mkenya "Nyang'au" supported by irrational arguments ndio kuamka? Khaaa!!!!

Watanzania tuache ushambenga. Tuache kulalamikia watu wengine kutokana na matatizo yanayotukabili. Tujadili serious issues na sio hoja nyepesi nyepesi na gossips. Ukweli ni kwamba alituita sie "fools" and we still won the argument. You gotta have to wonder when the "fools" beat the ones regard themselves the best. Probably na wewe unahitaji kusoma hii article:
allAfrica.com: Tanzania: The Country Has Become a Nation of Complainers

Halafu angalia na wewe unavyofanya assumptions kama yeye. Umejuaje mimi ni mdogo wako? Au ndio njia yako ya kujaribu ku-suppress arguments za watu kwa kuwaita wadogo zako?



 

Acha jazba kama ni hiyo ya nchi ya walalamikaji ya Prof. Hirji ni mimi ndio nilikuwa mtu wa kwanza kuiposti humu ndani (JF), lakini haihusiani na haya mambo ya kuwalea waKenya kama unavyojaribu kufanya....Posti zako ni za mtu anayepotea bila kupenda kwa sababu tu ya kutaka kujifanya, au kushindana, au ujuaji sana zaidi ya waTanzania wenzake, sisi si mazuzu mkuu...:A S-coffee:

Watu wa jamii yenu mmekuwa mkijichukilia advantage ya hulka ya waTanzania ya kutopenda sifa na kujipendekeza au kudharau wengine na kufanya kama ndio udhaifu wetu....:A S-coffee:
 
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